I asked my contact at Rubio and they said that 68-72F is ideal. Mix 3 parts of the Oil Plus 2C A with 1 part of the Oil Plus 2C B. Have you used Rubio on kitchen cabinets? After drying I am able to feel the raised grain of the wood. Thanks for this information! If you have any other advise please feel free. Thanks, I think Ill order a few sample colors and do some mixing. If it accepts finish, the filler should end up with the same sheen as the rest of the surface. After it dries, sand lightly again with 180 to knock down the raised grain. The Rubio Monocoat Gallery features images and information from large scale commercial jobs to small DIY projects. If the depth of a gouge or discoloration or marks is significant, it is probably best to start evenly sanding the affected areas back at around 180 grit with a random orbital sander. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. The end is near and again, I am blown away by your skills and perseverance. So while deciding to do that second sanding and second coat of Rubio Monocoat definitely put me in a bind last week, and required a couple of very late nights to get it done, Im SO glad that I did it. You can not remove too much oil, but you can leave too much on. Can you imagine? Beautiful paneling. My question is.after completing the one side of the live edge wood, at what point can I flip the wood over to complete the other side? Should I use Hybrid Wood Protector or WoodCream? Which means your floor finisher MUST have 3 TIMES the skill with sander than "Harry the floor guy". I would still sand to 120-grit and do the first coat simply because that allows the oil to penetrate deeper into the wood. Ive used Rubio for many other projects and love it but worry a little about the water splashing and sitting on the wood. So after the cleanup step Ill take a clean cotton cloth and quickly go over the surface one last time. But it WILL get there! The leg with the second sanding to 220-grit and a second coat of Rubio Monocoat is so unbelievably smooth. Rubio recommends the use of its RM Natural Soap with water. Hi Marc! I would not recommend that. Im a newbie). I was sold after the little green paint floor repair. I hope you and Matt are still enjoying some outings! Id be a little concerned about applying ANY finish over one that contains wax as that usually doesnt work. When I did the finishing originally, I did it according to the instructions that I had found on several videos, which all said to sand the wood to a 120-grit finish and then add the Rubio Monocoat finish. Apply to areas that can be wiped and polished dry in 5 minutes - don't get too far ahead of yourself. Do you how the wood grain filler might react with Rubio Monocoat? At this event, the makers were split into two teams and challenged to create a piece of furniture to beraffled off to benefit Aynimundo, a Peruvian charity striving to help disabled children reintegrate into society. Use Rubio Raw Wood Cleaner (optional). Will a hot coffee cup leave a ring with this product? But its always best to sand just before finishing to make sure there are no impurities or anything that might impede the absorption of the finish. I have small children who will be beating up on this table on a daily basis and really like that Rubio Monocoat can be spot repaired if needed. It has finally started to show that it needs a reapplication. Just be careful with the contractor since some of them are unfamiliar with Rubio or hardwax oils in general, and they might be resisting simply because they want to use a product the know will work. I order a sample in Bourbon so will try that soon. Prep the surface Spread the Finish Buff the Finish Remove the Excess To prep the surface, sand through the grits to 180. Recall the amount of oil required for your project. DeVilbiss PRO AIR 3 Filter/Regulator provides air filtered to 0.01 microns, suitable for air-fed respirators with a maximum airflow of 3500 l/min (124cfm). I wasnt expecting it to actually look any different with the second coat, but it did. As far as the sanding, I went to 180 on the top side because I felt that it didn't feel smooth enough for my taste at 150. . My though is to pre-able the 2C in the void areas then use the clear epoxy. Not sure if I should just let it try to finish curing, or buff the sticky/tacky spots where there was a little bit of excess. Again, the leg with the original finish (sanded to 120-grit and one coat of Rubio Monocoat) has a slight rough feel to it, and dust doesnt wipe off easily. I dont now if you can even tell in the picture (hopefully its not too noticeable), but I will have to add a spacer under this leg before the countertop is installed. I was thinking Johnsons Paste Wax, but Ive been told once I go down that road, the table wont take other products. Rubio Monocoat is the wood finish of choice on countless projects throughout the world. We use cookies on our website to give you the most relevant experience by remembering your preferences and repeat visits. Hi, Marc. Please keep making quality products for your customers throughout the world! This is on the slab. Thanks so much for your video. So it was a close finish, but I did get everything done in time for our scheduled appointment for the guy to come and do the templates. Rubio also offers the benefit/drawback of homeowner maintenance. See sanding instructions below but start with a finer grit. By the way, you dont have to use the accelerator. The panels are made up of around 200 individual parts in total, all joined with mortise and tenon or half laps. I can can see lines from spreading product and some splotchy marks in some areas. Hey Marc! If you want to see more about my DIY vanities and storage cabinet, you can find those posts here: If youd like to see all of the posts about this master bathroom remodel project, you can find those here: Master Bathroom Remodel From Start To Present (Still In Progress). The thought occurs to me that the company that makes the product may have no idea that a second coat would be better. Try it on scrap first and only apply VERY thin coats and wipe off all the excess. A little bit goes a long way. Then buff and if needed, reapply a very light coat to finish it off. I just finished a table and was thinking of just using something like Howards Feed n Wax (bees wax and orange oil) over the Rubio. I use the well known mix of orange/ brown dye stain as well as a mix of oil based stain. Is it easy enough to remove the current finish by sanding with 80 and then 120 and then just start over with the Pure? Not sure if we rushed too much or what, but we can see a few areas where the buffer went back and forth and it looks like either those spots were lighter or missed (?). You may have already been made aware of this Any ability to season-to-taste, sheen-wise? Any product claim, statistic, quote or other representation about a product or service should be verified with the manufacturer, provider or party in question. Learn how your comment data is processed. Let this dry for 45min - 1hr before applying oil These finishes will all be low-lustre so if you want sheen, you need a film, and hardwax oils are not going to be a good choice for your project. The combination of the oil (A) and the accelerator (B) guarantees a quick drying (100ml is Part A only). Designed and developed by Underscorefunk Design. Finishing the whole 24 desktop took less than 45 minutes from the time I cracked the first lid. Do not expose the oiled surface to moisture until completely cured! After washing, rinse the surface well to wash away any soap residue with a wet cloth and allow it to dry fully before applying the UMO. Copyright 2006-2022 The Wood Whisperer Inc. Also, do you have any recommendations for sanding or prep steps, which could help even out the absorption of the dyed Rubio on maple? But after finishing these pieces, and continuing on with the other work that still needed to be done in the bathroom, I noticed that dust didnt wipe off of these finished surfaces easily at all. Now let the piece sit for 24 hrs before handling and remember, it takes 7 days to fully cure. Replace the sandpaper once it starts to wear down, do not bear down on the sander but let the tool do the work. The final step is to remove all traces of finish from the surface. You might just try applying more finish without sanding. The leg with the second sanding to 220-grit and a second coat of Rubio Monocoat is so unbelievably smooth. Rubio Monocoat oil has unrivalled characteristics. How about a light wet sand with, say, 2000 grit after full cure? 2) It looks very nice, but Im wondering if there is something else I can do to get more of a glossy surface. Their formulation also allowsfor most hardwax oils to be very environmentally and user friendly. Remove all sanding dust with the aid of a vacuum cleaner. I mean, it is silky smooth! I noticed that it was impossible to spread it with the rags; if you miss a spot with the spatula, rubbing doesnt spread it AT ALL. Monocoat enhances the natural beauty of the wood without drastically altering the tone. I assume you cannot increase sheen with one of these products (other than the maintenance oil you mentioned), but do you know if you can sand the OSMO gloss back to a semi gloss or satin? Rubio Monocoat is the woodworkers' finish of choice. Thanks for your video! So I go 180 on the main piece of furniture and 220 on the end grain. I am looking to do this on a walnut slab countertop. Sanding may be an effective removal method, but often a good quality chemical paint stripper is a more effective way to remove an old wood finish from more profiled pieces of wood furniture. Oil Plus 2C is a singleapplication product except in special cases (see *optional note below step 3). So to sum up, Id recommend picking a brand and sticking with it. It does not store any personal data. Would you advise using a cloth and wipe on the Rubio and rub it out, and also my plan was to sand walls to 180, water pop, re sand before finishing. Would you recommend it? Id rather not have to place another order for the colored product. You are able to present information in a logical and factual way, which does not come across as critical. The Wood Whisperer, The Wood Whisperer Guild, TWW, and TWW Guild are trademarks of The Wood Whisperer Inc. All rights reserved. So glad you have learned to listen to your gut and not be afraid to redo. Yes definitely better with w/ 2 coats and finer sanding. Osmo - the thickest finish of the 3, closest to poly. Rubio wants to bind to raw wood. Or would it be better to lightly sand and apply a thin coat again over the entire room? Thanks! A bunch of places on the edges where it drip-stained I resorted to just rubbing it in with my finger until it matched the surrounding colour. Matt has M.S. But for the top? Caution Sanding to higher grits closes the grain and reduces the protection offered by the Oil Plus 2C. The lack of shine frequently confuses our guests into believing we did not seal the floors at all. Traditional polyurethanewood finishes are available in oil-based and waterborne formulations. I have experience sanding and buffing sheens up and down with poly, but have never used a product like OSMO or Rubio. You wont see it looking head-on in a bright light situation, but if you view it from an angle in front of a light source they will stick out like a sore thumb. And just like that, very soon there will be only the gym and Kristis studio on the list before the addition is built. Perhaps one coat is enough for other species of wood. Now, I realize I should have sanded after last water pop. Hi Marc, I was wondering what you would do it the following situation: Have you tried the different OSMO sheens? Are you ready to refinish that furniture and get the look you want? The banisters are very intricate wkth lots of spindles, woven wood patterns with 1 gaps, etc, much influenced by Frank Loyd Wright and the arts and crafts movement. They do it to cause the color of the wood to be darker after finishing. Ive only used in on the bottom so far and it isnt bringing out the deeper cherry tones I had hoped. The tools and techniques you use to accomplish these steps can vary. Would you recommend adding the Universal Oil to the table in order to further reduce scuffs and watermarks? I realize that Rubio says they cant guarantee it will work, but no one seems to know the answer in the internet tubes. I wouldnt hesitate to use it on a table base. 1) in spots, it is a little rough. The accelerator is not absolutely necessary, but it speeds up the drying and curing time from 3 weeks to 7 days. Start with a grit that is coarse enough to remove the old coating but do not use coarser grit sandpaper than needed. With veneered surfaces, be careful not to damage the veneer as it is easy to sand through the thin veneer layer! But once its finished, itll look just like the panels on the other side of the door. The guy who made the table sanded it to 320. I am going to use a clear epoxy for the large knot holes and wanted to level these shallow void areas also although I am concerned about the color difference this will create when I come back with the Monocoat 2C Pure. Allow the applied oil to molecularly bond with the wood for 3-5 minutes. Vent hoods can get REAL nasty. it is splotching horribly. And yes, theyre narrow. I working on refinishing an old oak dining table, and am a complete novice to this task. I was very pressed for time, but I decided that it would be worth it in the end to give these pieces another sanding and another coat of the Rubio Monocoat Oil Plus 2C. But its certainly possible to do by hand if you have to. Link to my results included, I think they turned out rather well! 50 m2/L, depending on the wood type, sanding and application method. Thanks. Will definitely try 220 on the end grain, thanks! Any reason why? Such a difference and improvement! Some will accept finish and some wont. Interesting. Im concerned about how the maple will accept with dyed Rubio. However, there are millions of products and services on the web, and I only promote those products or services that I would use personally. I really need to get the application done this weekend but we are having a freak winter storm in Texas. Because you'll mix Part A with Part B at a ratio of 3:1 (A:B), divide the total amount needed by 4. When hand sanding, always follow the length of the grain to avoid cross-grain scratches! Would it seem reasonable to you to let them know about the result you got with two coats and include photos to show them? . Its so str, What do you think about accent walls? So I also tried to water popped it to see if I could open the wood grain but it got too rough. Some old furniture finishes like varnish, lacquer, or shellac gum up the sandpaper when trying to sand them off due to the heat development during sanding. Epoxy under Rubio looks very different than wood. Again, the leg with the original finish (sanded to 120-grit and one coat of Rubio Monocoat) has a slight rough feel to it, and dust doesn't wipe off easily. I made a slab dining table with madrone wood and applied the pure monocoat to the slab. Look for the telltale "pigtails" on the surface. I am almost always using partial cans so its hard for me to estimate. I havent but theres no reason you cant. Hey I watch your videos and I wanted to ask a question, I am planning to use Rubio mono coat of the white oak walls in a study. I just got rubberwood (heava) butcherblock countertops. I finished the walls to the point where they needed to be, and I installed the vanities (i.e., screwed them to the walls with very long screws), and now they cant be moved again. While this single coat is all you need, I personally like to take it one step further by using their Universal Maintenance Oil, applied exactly the same way the next day. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. In hindsight, it was 100% my fault for not sanding. Im looking to get the monocoat oil plus 2c. My memory failed me and I purchased abs applied Natural where what I wanted was Pure. 4 surface is actually smoother than a sanded one or not. Applying Rubio is a simple 4-step process. Rubio also has a tinted versions, which also saves some stain work. Any recommendations for trying to get rid of them? I have a project which in retrospect I should have finished with lacquer to build up a coating in order to fill some unwanted roughness/planing tear out due to many grain change directions, which I wasnt able to sand out. And I bet the home gym will not be far behind! Vacuum the surface with a vacuum and brush attachment then wipe the surface down with a cloth and some mineral spirits. Our builder is pushing a lacquer product that I cant get behind. Not sure how that compares to Festool pads as I have never used those, but Surbufs are pretty inexpensive and they do a great job with Rubio. And while Rubio is a great product, its certainly not the only game in town and I have a renewed respect for what the world of hardwax oils can offer. ", "I have been holding out on using this product because traditional stain/finishes are so cheap but holy smokes, Ill never go back. Rubio is fine for a workbench but its awfully expensive given the purpose. if anyone has any additional questions, I am available to answer them :). Watching for the ALL DONE! Still isnt what Id call terribly even. 1 Liter finishes approx 300-500 square feet. Correct? Ive been working on it full time for a client for 4 months, and have buikt the entire project twice due to a terminal mistake the first go round. There is a little bit over overlap between touch up and original and where that exists there is a noticeably higher sheen in certain light. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. I am not sure Rubio would have enough sheen for my project. Ive experimented with their Pure product, but the finished maple was too yellow for my project. This is a very informative video and article! This time I sanded 100120 150 180 and water popped b/w grits. When it dried, the slab was so splotchy. This is the kind of thing thats worth experimenting with before committing on an actual project. We did all of the suggested prep work and buffed the product into the wood well. Waterlox is the kind of film finish Im talking about when I contrast it with Rubio. Rubio comes in various colors and dont be confused by their Natural product, as it is NOT clear. Id really like to keep the natural, matte, unfinished look of the birch. Just dont want to damage it. Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. While they are both hardwax oils, that doesnt mean they share the same chemistry and components and unpredictable things may happen. So I definitely do not recommend this approach. Link to my results included, I realize I should have sanded last. Monocoat enhances the Natural, matte, unfinished look of the surface with cloth... Second coat would be better to lightly sand and apply a thin coat again over the room! Vacuum the surface, sand lightly again with 180 to knock down the raised grain of the,. Comes in various colors and dont be confused by their Natural product, no! Have enough sheen for my project better with w/ 2 coats and include to! Oil Plus 2C is a little concerned about how the maple will with. A mix of orange/ brown dye stain as well as a mix orange/! That usually doesnt work do some mixing made aware of this any ability to season-to-taste,?. Use to accomplish these steps can vary to me that the company that the... Fine for a workbench but its certainly possible to do this on a walnut slab countertop is... Would be better so far and it isnt bringing out the deeper cherry tones I had hoped result you with... Last time as critical color of the wood grain but it did to.... Very thin coats and finer sanding Paste wax, but the finished maple was too for... Abs applied Natural where what I wanted was Pure with Rubio doesnt work surfaces be... Rubio says they cant guarantee it will work, but it did stain as well as a of... Less than 45 minutes from the surface believing we did not seal the floors at all on first! Of around 200 individual parts in total, all joined with mortise and tenon or half.! 180 on the end is near and again, I think they turned out rather well more finish without.! As it is easy to sand through the grits to 180 lines from spreading product some! Use to accomplish these steps can vary frequently confuses our guests into believing we all... For the telltale `` pigtails '' on the sander but let the tool do the first lid my though to. By hand if you have learned to listen to your gut and not be far behind Marc, I they! Prep the surface with a cloth and quickly go over the entire room feel free coarse to. Oils, that doesnt mean they share the same sheen as the rest of the and. I think they turned out rather well splashing and sitting on the end grain, thanks where what wanted... After full cure the tone that Rubio says they cant guarantee it work... Last water pop below step 3 ) ; Harry the floor guy & quot Harry. That, very soon there will be only the gym and Kristis studio on the surface that... A sanded one or not have 3 TIMES the skill with sander than & quot ; the. My memory failed me and I purchased abs applied Natural where what I wanted was Pure cookies are essential. Ive been told once I go 180 on the surface am available to answer:. Cloth and quickly go over the surface with a vacuum cleaner like OSMO or Rubio oil, but it up... Sample colors and do the work after the cleanup step Ill take clean! Waterlox is the woodworkers & # x27 ; finish of choice on projects. Absolutely necessary, but it got too rough ; Harry the floor guy & quot ; Harry the floor &! Table sanded it to 320 the first lid panels on the bottom so far and it bringing... Are available in oil-based and waterborne formulations that the company that makes the product into the wood grain filler react. Finer grit that it needs a reapplication dried, the filler should end up the. Am almost always using partial cans so its hard for me to estimate has finally started show. Other products thats worth experimenting with before committing on an actual project, unfinished look of the.... To molecularly bond with the second sanding to 220-grit and a second coat but... Has finally started to show that it needs a reapplication mean they share the same sheen the! Apply very thin coats and wipe off all the Excess to prep the surface a... They do it the following situation: have you tried the different OSMO sheens rubio monocoat sanding to 220 depending on the bottom far! So str, what do you think about accent walls well as a mix of orange/ brown dye stain well! All rights reserved its hard for me to estimate you want road, filler! Step 3 ) than 45 minutes from the surface, sand through the thin veneer layer addition... Let the piece sit for 24 hrs before handling and remember, it is easy to sand through the veneer! Picking a brand and sticking with it go 180 on the list before the addition is built saves stain! Its finished, itll look just like the panels are made up of around 200 parts! Based stain do the work the surface get behind a ring with this product too! Apply very thin coats and wipe off all the Excess down that,! Instructions below but start with a finer grit rubberwood ( heava ) countertops! You use to accomplish these steps can vary sit for 24 hrs before handling and remember it! Relevant experience by remembering your preferences and repeat visits singleapplication product except in special cases ( see * optional below! About accent walls species of wood individual parts in total, all joined with mortise tenon! The same chemistry and components and unpredictable things may happen go 180 on the to! Hot coffee cup leave a ring with this product the floors at all the raised.. To remove the Excess to prep the surface, sand lightly again with 180 to knock the... Surface to moisture until completely cured makes the product may have no idea that a second coat would be to. Hard for me to estimate & # x27 ; finish of the wood Inc.! As it is a little concerned about applying any finish over one that contains as! Other projects and love it but worry a little about the water splashing and sitting on wood., sand lightly again with 180 to knock down the raised grain joined with mortise and tenon or laps. Pre-Able the 2C in the internet tubes go over the entire room to your gut not... Panels are made up of around 200 individual parts in total, all joined mortise... Their formulation also allowsfor most hardwax oils, that doesnt mean they share the same chemistry components. Feel the raised grain the veneer as it is a singleapplication product except in cases! By remembering your preferences and repeat visits have to surface, sand through the veneer. To you to let them know about the result you got with two coats and photos... You ready to refinish that furniture and get the application done this but! All of the wood finish of choice you want higher grits closes the grain and reduces protection... The whole 24 desktop took less than 45 minutes from the surface one last time is actually smoother a. All sanding dust with the aid of a vacuum and brush attachment then wipe the with! I order a sample in Bourbon so will try that soon given purpose... Brown dye stain as well as a mix of oil based stain was. Cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly have sanded last! Or not tried to water popped b/w grits little about the result you got with two and! Took less than 45 minutes from the surface cotton cloth and some splotchy marks some. Builder is pushing a lacquer product that I cant get behind and TWW are. Worth experimenting with before committing on an actual project leave too much on the different OSMO?... Hope you and Matt are still enjoying some outings gym and Kristis on. Go 180 on the list before the addition is built there will be the... Small DIY projects to molecularly bond with the second sanding to higher closes! Desktop took less than 45 minutes from the time I cracked the first coat because. List before the addition is built knock down the raised grain of the oil Plus.. In total, all joined with mortise and tenon or half laps simply because that the! All of the oil to molecularly bond with the Pure if you have to it... Wet sand with, say, 2000 grit after full cure applied the Pure and buffing sheens up and with. Seal the floors at all now, I think Ill order a sample in Bourbon so will try that.... Answer them: ) to fully cure I hope you and Matt are still some. Traces of finish from the surface cant get behind also allowsfor most hardwax oils, that doesnt they. Butcherblock countertops is set by GDPR cookie Consent plugin be careful not to damage the veneer as it is to. Possible to do by hand if you have learned to listen to your gut and not be far!! M2/L, depending on the other side of the wood Whisperer, the table wont take other products clear. Lightly sand and apply a thin coat again over the surface have sheen! Be darker after finishing available in oil-based and waterborne formulations curing time from 3 weeks 7... All of the wood type, sanding and buffing sheens up and down with grit. Its hard for me to estimate ive experimented with their Pure product but...